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Agent0IsMyHero
06-19-2007, 12:32 PM
interesting prospect....WP said many scouts believed hes the best european prospect this year...


"The Washington Wizards, who will pick 16th and 47th in the June 28 draft, conducted workouts yesterday with shooting guards Marco Belinelli (Italy) and Brandon Heath (San Diego State), forwards Jermareo Davidson (Alabama) and Ali Traore (France), and center Glen Davis (LSU).

The 6-foot-5 Belinelli is one of the top players in Europe and caught the attention of several NBA teams with his performance at the recently completed Eurocamp in Treviso, Italy, where some scouts said he was the best player.

Belinelli, who averaged 16.4 points on 54.4 percent shooting for Fortitudo Bologna (Italy) last season, remains under contract with the team but said yesterday that he holds a buyout option and could play in the NBA next season if drafted."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPYO0L6_6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPYO0L6_6U)
you suck
06-19-2007, 12:49 PM
We could use a bench player that can step up and hit some big jumpers.
GodShamgod
06-19-2007, 01:54 PM
I a pretty high on Marco. I think Rudy Fernandez is the best European in this draft however, his huge buyout really hurts him. The big positive with Belinelli is that he has a reasonable buyout and will be able to come in this season. He is flat out the best shooter in the draft. Although he doesn't have a super quick first step he has very good athleticism and a nice vertical. The only big negative on him is his defense.

Check out this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNxZ4_O8R8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNxZ4_O8R8M)
0>23
06-19-2007, 02:09 PM
We could use a bench player that can step up and hit some big jumpers.

Thats why if we move up we go after Nick Young.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w5yKlvPHiLA

:basketball:
Agent0IsMyHero
06-19-2007, 03:07 PM
yeah nick young is nasty, but i rather have Jeff Green, who can play the 1, 2, 3, and 4!
0>23
06-19-2007, 03:39 PM
Now don't take this the wrong way, and im not questioning your basketball knowledge but since when or when during his 3 year career at Georgetown did Jeff Green show he could play the 1 and 2? Especially in the NBA? he would be eaten alive, spat out then eaten again and crapped out if he tried to handle the ball against the 1 and 2's in the league. 3 and 4 i understand.

I still would rather have Nick Young.
you suck
06-19-2007, 04:18 PM
If Andrei Kirilenko can play point then Jeff Green can. Obviously he's not going be a teams starting 1 but he can handle the ball.
GodShamgod
06-19-2007, 05:09 PM
Thats why if we move up we go after Nick Young.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w5yKlvPHiLA

:basketball:

Yeah I think it's pretty obvious that Nick is our 1st choice. However there is basically no chance he will be there at 16. Young has absolutely been tearing up workouts and is the best shooting guard in the draft (Corey Brewer is much more of a 3 at this point). I think there is a very good chance he is gone at #8 to the Bobcats, if not then then no way he gets past #13 to the Hornets. Even if he does Detroit will take him before us.

If he doesn't go 8 then there is a chance we could get him if we can somehow trade up with Atlanta at 11 but that is highly unlikely.
Agent0IsMyHero
06-19-2007, 07:19 PM
yeah so we will basically be screwed over with a international star AGAIN...i just want some kind of college player who can make an impact for once!
NumberZero
06-20-2007, 09:34 PM
Looks like the guy is a baller. He'd be great to have come off the bench, then eventually start.
0>23
06-21-2007, 01:29 PM
Id rather have Navarro come over here than Belineli.
LooseCannon_aka_one3
06-21-2007, 03:13 PM
yea Navarro would be "NASHTY" over here for us.....but I have a feeling his rights are going to get traded at some time since we are never gonna be able to bring him over
you suck
06-21-2007, 04:12 PM
No team can bring him over because his buyout clause is more than any NBA team is allowed to pay for a buyout. So he has to buy his contract out with his own money which doesn't seem very likely.
0>23
06-21-2007, 04:38 PM
No team can bring him over because his buyout clause is more than any NBA team is allowed to pay for a buyout. So he has to buy his contract out with his own money which doesn't seem very likely.

His buyout clause from what i've read is 3.5 or close to. Where did you see that its more than any team is allowed to pay?
D.G.A.C.O.L.B.
06-21-2007, 04:43 PM
By rule, an NBA team is only allowed to pay 500k towards a players buyout. So Navarro would have to pay the other 3 mil.

Any amount over 500k counts towards the teams salary cap for the year, not including the contract the player would eventually sign with the team.

I'll see if I can't find a link.
0>23
06-21-2007, 04:58 PM
Good stuff GACOLB, just read an article on max payout. Its crazy how much in favor the NBA's CBA is for European Clubs that are basically raising these kids overseas. Besides the fact that their contracts are based on gross and not net like over here......where the govn't takes between 35-50% of their contracts, the only real incentive for the great players to come over here is to play in the "Best League in the World".

I would hope Barcelona would work with Navarro and give him a low buyout based on the work he's done for them, but it is a business!!
D.G.A.C.O.L.B.
06-21-2007, 05:40 PM
You're right, it's all about money. Like everything. I just read an article on how these foreign guys are getting signed to 10 year deals when they're 14 years old and getting stuck. And how the NBA wants FIBA to do something about it but FIBA doesn't care. It's all crazy.

For those of you who want a link to the max buyout thing:

http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-VII_3.php

and I'm sure you can find it here

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

I warn you though, reading the NBA CBA is like torture. For me anyway.
GodShamgod
06-21-2007, 06:21 PM
You're right, it's all about money. Like everything. I just read an article on how these foreign guys are getting signed to 10 year deals when they're 14 years old and getting stuck. And how the NBA wants FIBA to do something about it but FIBA doesn't care. It's all crazy.

Yeah its pretty frustrating with a lot of these guys because they have so much talent. An example this year is Rudy Fernandez. He is talented enough to be a lottery pick but he may never even end up in the NBA because of his contract situation. He's still under contract with his spanish team for next year that will be almost impossible for an NBA team to buyout. After that he already has offers from several other Euro League teams who can pay him around 4 million his first year. That is much, much more than he would get in his rookie contract here.
blk_rshn
06-28-2007, 02:19 AM
Definitely can see us taking him. The chances of Young being around at 16 are remote at best and we may not be able to move up high enough to land him.
flash22
06-28-2007, 01:43 PM
we need a sharp shooter coming off the bench...he would be perfect
0>23
06-28-2007, 01:48 PM
Id rather go with http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/specials/draft/2007/video/?c=Player&p=88723

You never know whats going to happen with these Europeans. Ernie just said the other day we won't have Navarro yet again next year because of his contract.
GodShamgod
06-28-2007, 05:28 PM
Id rather go with http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/specials/draft/2007/video/?c=Player&p=88723

You never know whats going to happen with these Europeans. Ernie just said the other day we won't have Navarro yet again next year because of his contract.

Belinelli's buyout is only 600,00. If we draft him we can pay 500,000 of that so he will almost definitely be over next year.

He is also very NBA ready. He's been playing in a top Italian League since he was 15. And he also managed to put up 25 points against Team USA while playing for Italy last year. nbadraft.net has us taking him and I would not be surprised at at if we do.